Carter Umhau Interview, September 29, 2023

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  • Okay, today's September 29th at Art All Night in Mount Pleasant.
  • Could you tell us your name? My name is Carter.
  • Carter, could you tell us about your relationship to Mount
  • Pleasant? Yes.
  • So I grew up in DC, and so Mount Pleasant was always on my radar as
  • a really wonderful neighborhood.
  • But I lived across the country for
  • a really long time and moved back during the pandemic.
  • And the person I started dating and my now partner is from Mount
  • Pleasant.
  • He was living here at the time and
  • so like my whole entrance back into adulthood in DC has been
  • primarily first in Mount Pleasant.
  • And I lived here temporarily over
  • this summer but otherwise was like kind of constantly in and out with
  • my partner at his place.
  • So I feel like it's my
  • neighborhood in a lot of ways because it's the place where he
  • is, but also the place where most of my friends are as well.
  • And I work up here too.
  • Yeah.
  • Do you mind telling us where you work?
  • Yeah.
  • Well, I, on, I'm on sabbatical as
  • a therapist, but I have been working at Bold Fork Books which
  • is a cookbook shop on Mount Pleasant Street.
  • Oh fantastic.
  • And you said you were raised in
  • Washington? What neighborhood were you raised
  • in? In Chevy Chase.
  • In Chevy Chase? Yeah.
  • Yeah.
  • So what have been some of the
  • favorite things that have attracted you about Mount
  • Pleasant? I have to say it was like
  • initially I think through my partner's eyes that I started
  • falling in love with it because he really loved it and was always
  • kind of evangelizing about the neighborhood.
  • And he's multiracial, he's from DC, and he always talked about how
  • like this is the place that he still feels most at home in DC, as
  • the rest of the city is being gentrified so much and changing so
  • rapidly.
  • And especially during the
  • pandemic, I felt like I was able to come up here and see like such
  • diversity and also at the same time, such a neighborhood feel and
  • a community feel running into people all the time that are
  • familiar faces that become friends.
  • And like, it just feels like a little village.
  • And so that's kind of been like the initial draw.
  • Of course, there's like, I think this is some of what is really
  • beloved about Mount Pleasant in general, but that it is by Rock
  • Creek as well as having like huge access to downtown and feeling
  • like you're in the bustle of things.
  • But it feels like that quiet village nonetheless.
  • Yeah.
  • Fantastic.
  • Yeah.
  • And what do you think makes it
  • such a welcoming place for you and your boyfriend?
  • Gosh, I mean I think that it is that village feel.
  • I think that there's something about the pace up here that feels
  • a lot slower than the rest of DC.
  • It feels like that's changing
  • though, definitely.
  • The village feel isn't, but like
  • some of the pace and the energy feels like it's shifting slowly.
  • But I think that it feels like there's an arts community that's
  • still really alive.
  • There's lots of families, but
  • there's also a lot of young artists, there's a ton of
  • immigrants, like there's just a mix.
  • And I think that that's really cool.
  • And you said that you sense some change.
  • Yeah.
  • How would you describe that?
  • Well, I actually remember, I think it was like the Washingtonian put
  • out, or maybe it was the Washington Post, I don't remember.
  • But in 2020, they put out an article about Mount Pleasant being
  • like the neighborhood in DC that had been like unchanged in a lot
  • of ways.
  • And it was also the place that had
  • the most diversity left.
  • And it was right in the middle of
  • summer 2020 or maybe the fall afterward.
  • And my sense is a lot of people, a lot of white people like myself
  • were like, oh, that's a great place to live then.
  • And like maybe wanted to be involved more in the community,
  • but then it meant that a lot of people that were here before have
  • been kicked out and it's become more and more expensive.
  • And I think that there are like a couple of businesses that have
  • brought in like a really kind of like young, professional, mostly
  • white community that has like more disposable income, etc. It's just
  • sort of changed things a bit and therefore it's also becoming kind
  • of more desirable.
  • So a lot of young families, mostly
  • white, like it just is shifting and you get the sense that there's
  • kind of two communities happening at once in terms of the immigrant
  • population and then the younger families are the more wealthy
  • white people.
  • And that, there's that tension.
  • I feel like you can especially see that on farmer's market days that
  • used to feel like a little bit more mellow, but it feels like
  • there's this big influx of people that come.
  • And these more kind of fun, interesting, hip, good branding
  • behind them, companies that come in that are so wonderful, and I
  • love so many of them and then there's also like a woman on the
  • corner that's selling sliced fruit and like not being paid much
  • attention to.
  • So there's this like there's just
  • there's a tension that seems to be growing and I'm just gonna be
  • curious what that continues to look like.
  • Where would you like to see things go in the future?
  • Yeah, I mean I think that I would love for it to stay a more
  • affordable place, for there to be more housing like my friend had,
  • that is more accessible and accessible to different
  • communities and the immigrant population getting to be able to
  • have more say in the community.
  • I don't even, I don't know how to
  • make that happen, but it feels like a really important piece of
  • the puzzle, because I think it's what draws a lot of people to the
  • neighborhood, but of course it's going to be the thing that's wiped
  • out first.
  • So I don't know exactly what that
  • looks like.
  • I feel like I've been kind of
  • trying to wonder about that as someone that works in the
  • neighborhood, like what kinds of events can be put on that actually
  • are more inclusive and not kind of attracting people just from
  • outside of the neighborhood.
  • But that would be my hope, I don't
  • know.
  • Yeah, that's the big one.
  • Any other things you'd like to share with us?
  • If anyone wants to give me one of their houses, I'd take it.
  • I love the neighborhood, I think it's so great.
  • Yeah, that's it.
  • Thank you so much.