Olivia Dinucci Interview, September 29, 2023

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  • To start, do I have permission to record this interview?
  • Yes.
  • Perfect.
  • Could you please tell me your name?
  • Olivia.
  • Olivia.
  • And Olivia, how would you describe the community of Mount Pleasant
  • today? Today or just like in general?
  • In general.
  • So when I think of Mount Pleasant,
  • I think of the history of it and like how integral the Salvadorian
  • community was and is to it, even though it's a very gentrified
  • neighborhood now.
  • And the resistance and struggle of
  • the 1990s shooting and the uprisings here, and how that still
  • is living and is part of the present for folks who have that
  • history.
  • But I see it too as very localized
  • and hasn't been bought and sold out by big developers yet.
  • And I hope that that is maintained, even though it is a
  • very gentrified area.
  • And in what ways would you
  • describe Mount Pleasant in the past?
  • I am not from DC, so I can't speak to lived experience of it, so I
  • guess I wouldn't know.
  • That's fair, where are you from?
  • I'm originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
  • And what brought you to DC? I do a lot of international to
  • local solidarity activism work centered around anti-militarism
  • and anti-imperialism.
  • So for me, Salvadorian, US-backed
  • violence in Salvador is very, something that the US public is
  • not as familiar with.
  • And I think that when I walk the
  • streets of Mount Pleasant, I'm reminded of that struggle and of
  • the legacy and history and resistance, but also how the
  • people have built community around that.
  • So I've lived and worked abroad, and I've been in DC a couple of
  • years, but I've been back and forth from it.
  • And I'm very proud to say that I live here, I'm a resident of DC,
  • and a lot of people outside of DC think of it as a transient city,
  • or just not a localized place, and I really push back on that,
  • because historically it was predominanly black, and Chocolate
  • City was its nickname and name and how much that has shifted because
  • of like gentrification.
  • When you have friends or family
  • come and visit you in DC, where's one place that take you?
  • Ercilia's.
  • So the reason why I was excited to
  • do this is Ercilia's the pupusas spot in Mount Pleasant, the pink
  • building on the corner.
  • I love it there.
  • For me, I travel a lot and my last meal when I leave is either
  • Salvadorian at Ercilia's or an Ethiopian platter.
  • For me, I love bringing folks there and knowing people by name
  • in there.
  • They know what I want already when
  • I'm there just like yeah it's it's a it's a really just comfort food
  • and also just a place that is still surviving and like serves
  • the people.
  • And would you say that's your
  • favorite place in DC or is there somewhere else that you would name
  • your favorite place in DC? Ah, favorite is hard.
  • I have a lot of favorites.
  • So for me, my favorite pupusas are
  • definitely Ercelia's.
  • Yeah.
  • And how would you like to see the DC community, like the greater
  • community, change for the better in the future?
  • I don't know if I would say change.
  • I would say for the greater community of DC, especially people
  • who aren't from DC, to look into the history and the realities of
  • DC and to be more aware of how we take up space or how we are
  • contributing to a community.
  • There's amazing mutual aid
  • initiatives that happen here.
  • So I think rather than change,
  • it's more like respect and pay homage and to embrace the local
  • and the community, especially in Mount Pleasant and I live in Adams
  • Morgan, like the history of activism and community-based care
  • models that like we should be building off of instead of like
  • moving away from.
  • And, in what ways do you feel like
  • you have become part of the community?
  • Is there a certain place maybe, or a certain group of people that
  • would just really make you feel a part of the community?
  • So I started a group house like 10 minutes from here in Adams Morgan.
  • And we do a lot of community-based events, cultural events, political
  • education events.
  • And for me, I like to connect
  • people because I'm super outgoing.
  • For me, I find people that I'm
  • like, whoa, we connect, and then I want to connect them with other
  • people that are cool, that I think that will connect with them.
  • And so for me, I have just leaned into a lot of social justice
  • activism worlds, creatives, artists, and the people who make
  • food and bring their culture and heritage through that.
  • I also play basketball, that's what I'm coming from now, and
  • bringing that in, and reclaiming public spaces is a big thing for
  • me, because the more a city gets developed, the less public spaces
  • there are.
  • And for me, this concept of
  • cracking down on crime, or revitalizing a community just
  • means taking away public spaces, and the opposite needs to happen
  • in order to like really like move forward.
  • So yeah, there's a lot of amazing communities that I like love,
  • love, love, like, binding together and just like, exposing to the
  • world or like, to the community at large.
  • Right, perfect.
  • And is there anything that you
  • want to touch on that I haven't asked you about?
  • I guess like, I think just, I've heard a lot of times people like
  • having a bittersweet feeling of DC and like I would say like Really
  • connect with the local like it's a yes We are in the belly of the
  • beast the heart of the Empire like which is a national international
  • thing but like to really like deep dive into local they don't make
  • you feel connected and like again it won't dismiss like the
  • communities that are here and that have been displaced and how we can
  • be in solidarity with that while living here.
  • Perfect.
  • Well that's all the questions I
  • have.
  • Thank you