Lillian Frame Interview

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  • All right.
  • So could we start with your name
  • and position at AU I'm Lillian Frame and I'm a senior Feels weird
  • to say.
  • Alright.
  • Today is Monday March 20th, 2023.
  • This is Gabriella Folsom and I'm
  • here with Lilian Frame on the quad at American University.
  • It's around 12:30 and we are conducting an oral history
  • interview for the Preserving the Picket Line: AU Staff Union
  • Archive.
  • Thanks so much for joining us here
  • today.
  • Yeah We'll start off with how
  • would you describe your involvement in the union or in the
  • strike? Just generally.
  • So I have supported it since day one and I actually had the
  • opportunity to be here for two strike days.
  • I was out.
  • I planned on one day I was here
  • for just a few hours.
  • The next day, I was like, oh I'll
  • just go back for a few hours.
  • I brought my megaphone.
  • I was here for, from the moment it opened until the moment it closed.
  • Lost my voice got sunburned, got the whole thing, but had a really
  • incredible experience, and I've continued to stay involved with
  • the staff Union.
  • I lead a lot of the Survivor
  • movement at AU.
  • And so, Staff Union has been an
  • incredible resource and kind of position of solidarity for us,
  • where we work, very closely together, and they've been
  • incredibly supportive.
  • So yeah.
  • Can you walk me through, what the week of the strike was like for
  • you? It was like a week after I moved
  • into my apartment and so it was a little bit hectic but I was still
  • like, you know, I'll...I was sharing it as much as possible
  • trying to get as many people to help out as possible and then the
  • day of it was pretty much, you know, fun to be back.
  • I like it was my first protest back in D.C. in a while.
  • And yeah, I mean the next day I just slept for like, 24 hours
  • straight, but the day of the strike was the day of the strike
  • that I participated in primarily with my, you know, my big
  • megaphone, had everything going on.
  • It was pretty incredible.
  • And what was the climate like on
  • campus? I think, it was very Pro Union on
  • campus.
  • In my experience, you know, what I
  • always said is like, you, send your kids to a political school,
  • you got to expect some politics, and I think the parents kind of
  • experience that firsthand, but even, you know, a lot of people
  • were saying, well, now the first year students aren't going to like
  • the Staff Union but then all the first year, students straight up
  • walked out of Sylvia Burwell's commencement.
  • So like what do they know? I think it's more, the parents
  • didn't like, Staff Union, and they don't go here, so that's not
  • there, that's their problem, I guess.
  • But, in general, I mean, we saw, you know, coffee shops closed down
  • on campus in solidarity, organizations were releasing
  • statements in solidarity.
  • All of these things that were
  • happening and pretty much the entire opinion of the students was
  • like, we don't stay here for administration.
  • We stay here for the staff and our professors and so it's time to
  • like pay them what they deserve and we were very much so full
  • steam ahead on that.
  • And what do you consider to be the
  • effects or the legacy of the strike?
  • I hope that it's a legacy of just social change on AU's campus.
  • I think we've seen a lot of that this year, you know, thank God
  • that they changed their motto to "change can't wait.
  • "We've had a lot of fun with that recently.
  • But I hope that it's just showing like yeah, AU students are most
  • united when we are standing against administration and kind of
  • using that as a message to both the current administration and any
  • future administrations that we will, we have, we will, and we
  • will continue to stand up against oppressive powers.
  • What was the most memorable part of the strike for you.
  • Oh my God.
  • I had so many funny moments.
  • One time, we were trying to get into Anderson and a cop tried to
  • like put his hands on me.
  • So that was certainly memorable.
  • And it was AU PD and so I was like, I don't really know what
  • you're going to do to me right now.
  • Put me in like, Wonk jail.
  • Like you don't have any real power
  • in this situation, but he was like very much and I was like, all
  • right, okay, the rest of the team got in.
  • I was like, then I'm fine stand out here.
  • There's also we were marching from down there to back to Katzen.
  • And there were all these like frat boys who were around and they were
  • like what are you here for? And I was like the union!
  • I was like you're already wearing purple so you have to join, it's
  • the law.
  • They're like, okay.
  • And then we had like half of a frat come and join the protest for
  • like 30 minutes.
  • So, that was pretty funny.
  • I also like I just met so many really cool and incredible people
  • and I just think it was all very, very fun.
  • And is there anything else you'd like to talk about that?
  • I haven't asked.
  • No, I just think that the union
  • has done great work and will continue to Thank you so much
  • again for joining us.
  • Yeah, of course yeah.
  • We really appreciate your contribution.
  • We will be processing this interview in the coming weeks and
  • we'll be transcribing everything so we'll send you a copy of your
  • transcript in case you want to make any changes.
  • Do I need to sign anything to get the transcription thingamajiggy?